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pbh
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Hi,
I have a motion that is opposite to inside OTT. My hands does not move in as much as they could initially in the backswing. In the second half of the backswing my arms move low and very inside and the shaft is flat. In the beginning of the downswing my right humerus internally rotates a little and the shaft steepens and the hands stay inside.
I'm not sure what the cause is. Do I need to convince my subconcious to move the hands more in in the beginning of the backswing so the may shift more upp later? I have tried to consciously take the arms more in and feel an OTT move with the arms, but even that does not work.
Is it possible to over do the right arm preset at address so thet the right elbow is to much in the front and too tight to the body? |
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dariusz
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Wed 14:40, 04 Nov 2015 |
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Hello,
I apologize for a delayed answer.
It is hard to answer correctly without seeing a video first, but the scenario you describe appears to be correlated with a too-outside takeaway and overpronating lead arm. If yes, you need to learn to use your rear side in the takaway; the best way to do it is to implement the trigger compression phase to start the whole motion. Also, implementing bigger diagonality of the stance would help vividly thanks to creation a space for inside takeaway.
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pbh
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Thu 7:22, 05 Nov 2015 |
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Thanks for your answer!
I think your right about the pronation in the end of my backswing. |
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pbh
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Thu 7:24, 05 Nov 2015 |
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I tried to post some video, but the forum did not allow it until I make 3 legitimate posts. This is my third post so maybe after I can post a link. |
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pbh
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dariusz
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Thu 18:25, 05 Nov 2015 |
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As I suspected. Is it your natural motion or a trained one ? The reason I ask is that the vast majority of golfers do the opposite. You are in the minority, however, in a very good company of Trevino and Furyk, among others.
Many teachers who do not understand OTT from the inside force their students to do the loop as yours thinking erroneously they help theirr students to achieve flatter plane in the downswing. |
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dariusz
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Thu 19:02, 05 Nov 2015 |
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Analyzing closer your swing now. Not all is as I suspected. The takeaway is very outside, however, there is no sign of overpronation of the lead arm - in fact, your lead arm is underpronated causing your clubface "watch at the ball" too long (Trevino on the left):
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dariusz
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Thu 19:13, 05 Nov 2015 |
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The medicine is - either you use more lead arm to take away (with pronation) - which can be not natural to achieve for you or you change your grip; as you can see, your lead hand grip is too weak (post-secret Hogan on the left):
As you can see, comparing even to post-secret Hogan with his weakened grip, the rear hand one is slightly while lead hand one a lot stronger.
Start here with the above. Your swing is good enough not to mess more. Let's see what happens. |
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pbh
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pbh
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Thu 20:19, 05 Nov 2015 |
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I will try to strengthen my left had grip. It is difficult without strengthening the right hand. |
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dariusz
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Thu 21:13, 05 Nov 2015 |
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You can strengthen your right hand grip as well, but less than your left one. Refer to the Bio-K Grip articles. |
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dariusz
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Thu 21:18, 05 Nov 2015 |
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Watching your older swings I claim that it would be easier for you to achieve OTT from the inside without these two instructors. Your loop a'la Trevino appears to be trained and forced to my eye. You see, for almost all instructors OTT is bad always which is, of course, wrong. In fact, 90% of the best ballstrikers ever performed bigger or smaller version of OTT from the inside concept - from Jones and Snead to Hogan himself. |
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dariusz
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Sat 16:56, 07 Nov 2015 |
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Looks slightly better for my eye. Try to strengthen your lead hand grip now. |
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pbh
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Sat 18:28, 07 Nov 2015 |
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I meant to say that I tried to strengthen my left hand grip, but it did not look much stronger on the video. I will try to make it feel much stronger, maybe it will make more real difference. |
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